Beef up Military? I didn't know we were being invaded! Corrupt Leaders are the ones that start the wars Harper. We do not need a Military Industrial Complex here in Canada. You want to Beef up our Military so we can Invade and Occupy other Countries and be a Threat to the rest. That's the American way Harper NOT the Canadian way. Stop being a Good Boy for your Big Brother Bush! The only thing I want Harper to Announce is his Resignation.
Well another $27 million spent, for a New Unit, to Spy and Occupy other Countries. I vote we take $7 million to remove the viruses inbedded in our government, then put the rest into important Canadian issues.
Canada sets up new military spy unit http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/05/ ... gence.html
Well here's Harper's excuse to keep our troops there longer, I guess he thinks this will shut up 70% of us that want the troops to come home. This illegal war must end!
Afghan prison break 'a setback' for Canadian mission: Harper PM's comments come as victory declared after 24-hour battle against Taliban
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2008/06/1 ... liban.html
So May 12th they announce the $30B plan, and by June 20th it's bumped up to $490B???? WTF? I hope you all know they just took $490 Billion dollars of our money, to declare Martial Law on us. They provided to different amounts to confuse the public, as it's likley most of us will not see both reports, if any. Alot will see only one report and argue against the other in conversations. There's the confusion, most people will just drop the subject. What did the media do? It's more like what they did not do. The media showed no concern or suspicion over this hike of $460B. As a matter of fact they did not mention it. I'm pissed!!
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My fav part:
Military analyst Rob Huebert told CBC News that he can't understand why Harper would release the document so quietly, and why he would do so the day before the House of Commons is expected to adjourn for the summer.
My fav comment:
I'm sick and tired of working 50 hours a week my entire life to give 1/2 of it to the government to spend on useless military war machines that kill. I want my money to go towards ending poverty and hunger, education, protecting the environment and international aid ! When will the government understand this
_________________ "The day that we stop asking questions is the day that we have let the seeds of despotism grow at our front door."
My fav comment: I'm sick and tired of working 50 hours a week my entire life to give 1/2 of it to the government to spend on useless military war machines that kill. I want my money to go towards ending poverty and hunger, education, protecting the environment and international aid ! When will the government understand this
Well consider this...
Currently 2,500 Canadian troops are in Afganistan,
The military costs for the mission in Afghanistan reached $2.6 billion in March 2007, or nearly $1.3 million per day of the mission. The costs are projected to reach about $4.3 billion by the planned end of the mission in February 2009.
Canada's spending for development in Afghanistan up to May 2006 was $466 million. By 2011, it is expected to reach $1 billion.
The Canadian Forces has spent over $1 million on funeral services for soldiers killed in Afghanistan.
Establishing a Tim Hortons location in Kandahar has cost about $1.1 million for the first 12 months, according to the Department of National Defence.
The Kandahar location serves more than 1,000 cups of coffee a day to more than 7,000 personnel from Canada and other countries.
Taliban's are armed with A.K.A's and sandals...??? with no funding!! or Tim Hortons!! I dont see how the Taliban could pull this off, unless of coarse they have Chuck Norris on their side.
What I do see however, is excuses to push through Harper's controversial agenda's: 1)Keeping the Troops there longer: 2)A new $490B military plan.
It looks like the Taliban are helping with Harper's agenda's. Harper declares victory, yet 400 suspected Taliban militants have escaped. Victory indeed for Harper's Agenda's.
And here it is. Cheney's dream pipeline he has been talking about for over a decade. Our tax dollars and troops are in Afghanistan protecting Cheney's pipeline of riches.
Might I add another $4 million to that list. Where's all that money going from the Afghan Opium fields, can't they pay for a new prison?
Police chief sacked in aftermath of Afghan prison break Canada will spend $4 million to rebuild jail, improve security
Last Updated: Thursday, June 26, 2008 | 6:48 PM ET
CBC News Kandahar's provincial police chief has been fired in the aftermath of a massive prison break in southern Afghanistan that resulted in 1,100 prisoners going free, the Afghan government said.
Afghanistan's Interior Ministry announced in Kabul that it was sacking three senior security officials and sending their cases for further investigation by the attorney general's department.
"Some officials neglected their duties, therefore the government of Afghanistan has decided to sack Gen. Saved Aga Sageb, the provincial police chief of Kandahar," Reuters quoted from a ministry statement.
"The government of Afghanistan will never allow anyone to play with the security of the Afghan people," the ministry said.
The other sacked officials were the local head of intelligence and the chief police investigator for Kandahar.
Canada also announced Thursday that it would spend $4 million to rebuild the Sarposa prison, improve security and provide training for guards. The money would come from existing funds allocated for peace and security in Afghanistan, a statement from Foreign Affairs Minister David Emerson's office said.
The prison break was considered an embarrassment for the Afghan government and a threat to the security of the large city of Kandahar.
On June 13, Taliban militants detonated a car full of explosives in front of the main gates of Kandahar's Sarposa prison. Dozens of militants stormed the prison, firing rockets and detonating bombs as they set prisoners free.
Many of the inmates who escaped rushed into the nearby Arghandab region, where they were joined by other Taliban fighters. Local police and residents feared the fighters were preparing to mount a large-scale attack on Kandahar.
Afghan and Canadian troops eventually moved into the region on June 21, and cleared the area of militants during a 24-hour battle. Dozens of Taliban fighters were killed, while others were arrested.
Two Afghan soldiers as well as several civilians were also reported dead.
Up to $2 million of the Canadian reconstruction money would be spent directly on repairs to the Sarposa prison, according to the Foreign Affairs statement. The rest would go for upgrades to services at the jail and training for staff.
See, thanks to North America the Afghans are making a killing. $4 billion a year and yet us Canadians are paying for a new prison. ????
Afghanistan drug trade hits $4 billion a year Colum Lynch, New York June 28, 2008 theage
AFGHAN opium poppy cultivation grew 17% last year, according to the 2008 World Drug Report, released by the United Nations.
It continues a six-year expansion of the country's drug trade and increasing its share of global opium production to more than 92%. Afghanistan's emergence as the world's largest supplier of opium and heroin represents a serious setback to US policy in the region.
The opium trade has soared since the 2001 overthrow of the Taliban, which had eradicated almost all of the country's opium poppies. The proceeds from the illicit trade are helping finance a resurgent Taliban battling US and allied troops.
The Taliban earned $US200 million ($A208 million) to $US400 million last year from poppy growers and drug traffickers in areas under its control, said Antonio Maria Costa, executive director of the United Nations Office of Drugs and Crime.
He estimates that Afghan poppy farmers and drug traffickers last year earned about $US4 billion, half of the country's national income.
Afghanistan's high-yielding variety of opium poppies has helped double global opium production since 2005.
With production far outpacing world demand, UN anti-drug officials and government intelligence agencies worry about massive stockpiling.
The Bush Administration cited UN data suggesting that opium production will fall slightly this year in Afghanistan but acknowledged the scope of the problem.
"The drug threat in Afghanistan remains unacceptably high and requires a long-term commitment by both the Afghan Government and international donors," said Susan Pittman, of the State Department's Bureau of International Narcotics and Law Enforcement.
But the Administration also said the UN report confirmed its view that international efforts to contain the use of illicit drugs are succeeding, including in the US, where drug consumption has dropped over the past decade.
The 309-page report tracks a surge in marijuana production in Afghanistan and an increase in cocaine production in Bolivia, Peru and Colombia.
The UN noted new hubs for shipment and drug use — including Saudi Arabia, which in 2006 led the world in seizures of amphetamines. About 26 million people worldwide are addicted to drugs, the report said, and about 5% had used an illicit drug in the 12 months before the study.
Illicit drugs account for about 200,000 deaths a year, a small fraction of the nearly 5 million annual deaths from tobacco.
Drug consumption in the US, meanwhile, continued a "very significant" reduction, Mr Costa said.
Among the findings was a 19% drop over the past decade in the number of US workers who tested positive for cocaine use.
"The US has always been characterised by very high levels of drug addiction," Mr Costa said. But in the past five years, a "perceptible decrease" had been noted, especially among the younger population, aged 16 to 22. "The country is doing something right," he said.
■ Three senior police officials in the southern Afghan province of Kandahar have been sacked, two weeks after the Taliban staged a spectacular prison break that freed hundreds of militants.
Military probes mystery blast in Arctic http://www.canada.com/topics/news/natio ... 2ef385a602 Ed Struzik , Canwest News Service
Published: Thursday, August 07, 2008
EDMONTON - The Canadian military is sending a long-range Aurora aircraft to investigate reports of a mysterious explosion along Canada's Northwest Passage that may have killed several whales.
The drama apparently began in the early-morning hours of July 31, when an Inuit hunting party at an outpost camp at Borden Peninsula on northeastern Baffin Island was alerted to the sound of an explosion, followed by a cloud of black smoke.
An Inuit member of the Canadian Rangers, a military reservist unit stationed in the far North, reported the incident, and said a hunter at the camp saw several dead whales on shore when he went over to investigate.
In a preliminary investigation, DND's Joint Task Force Northern headquarters determined there were no known vessels operating in the area, and it did not know of any activity that could have caused an explosion.
"At this point, we really have very little else to report," says Summer Halliday, a spokeswoman for the Joint Task Force in Yellowknife.
"But we will be sending an Aurora aircraft to do a flyover. The plane is currently up north in the Mackenzie Valley on a routine exercise supporting the RCMP's Operation Nunakput."
Parks Canada will also be on the scene with a boat that's being dispatched from Sirmilik National Park on Bylot Island.
Originally designed for anti-submarine warfare, the Aurora is able to detect and destroy the latest generation of stealth submarines.
But its long-range capabilities are what make it so useful to the military. It can fly for 17 hours and cover 9,266 kilometres without refuelling.
The Aurora is frequently used to search out illegal fishing, illegal immigration, drug trafficking and pollution along Canada's three coastlines.
Unusual activity has been reported in the Borden Peninsula region before, according to a DND briefing report. Last summer, for example, several unusual and unidentified objects were seen in the water in the same area.
This past winter, a spectacular meteorite that swept across the sky lit up the radio waves with talk of UFOs.
Foreign submarines have also been sighted in Canadian Arctic waters over the past decade. No one will speculate on whether a submarine might be involved in this mystery blast.
"Until we hear from Parks Canada and the military, there's nothing we can confirm or deny," says Keith Pelley, a Fisheries and Oceans Canada official based in Nunavut.
"All we have is a report that an explosion occurred. It may be something or it could be nothing at all. Right now, we just don't know."
In the briefing report sent to other government departments, the Joint Task Force noted that it takes this, as well as other reports like it, seriously.
With climate change opening up the Northwest Passage to easier navigation, and with evidence of rich oil deposits below the Arctic Ocean, the international war of words over Canada's coldest frontier has been heating up.
Five countries - Canada, Russia, Norway, Denmark and the United States - have been compiling data to claim possible extensions to their Arctic continental shelves under international law. Russia has been the most aggressive in pressing its claim to the Pole: About a year ago, it sent a submarine to plant a Russian flag on the North Pole sea floor, and Lt.-Gen. Vladimir Shamanov has been talking about extending Russia's naval presence in the Arctic.
The Borden Peninsula is located on the northwest coast of Baffin Island, immediately west of Bylot Island. Inuit hunters from Pond Inlet often travel to this area to hunt whales, seals, polar bears and other animals.
Foreign cruise ships, adventurers, cargo vessels and resupply vessels also use the waterway from late July to late September.
Mystery of Arctic explosion and dead whales likely to remain http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/new ... cdf9c36934 The Edmonton Journal
Published: Saturday, August 09, 2008
An explosion that allegedly killed several whales in Canada's Northwest Passage in late July will likely remain a mystery.
A Transport Canada helicopter on board the Canadian Coast Guard ship Henry Larsen did a fly over of north Baffin Island on Friday and found no sign of dead whales or an explosion, says Summer Halliday, a spokeswoman for the Department of National Defence.
Defence officials were put on alert earlier this week when an Inuit ranger camped in the area passed on a report from a civilian colleague who heard the explosion and spotted the black cloud of smoke that followed. The report to DND suggested that several whales had been killed.
DND had intended on sending a long range C-140 Aurora aircraft to the area to investigate. But since the Henry Larsen was already in the area, a helicopter was dispatched from the ship.
A government source who asked not to be identified said it is not surprising that nothing was found considering it's been more than a week since the alleged explosion. If an explosion had occurred, he said, whatever caused it would have been long gone. Polar bears could have also eaten the carcasses of any whales that may have been killed.
90 dead Canadian soilders based on lies. Support the troops help bring them home!!
Canadian soldier killed in attack in Panjwaii; 90th death of Afghan mission 1 hour, 53 minutes ago By Tobi Cohen, The Canadian Press
KANDAHAR, Afghanistan - Canadian soldiers in Afghanistan are again mourning the loss of comrade in combat, just two days after another was killed in a skirmish with insurgents.
Master Cpl. Erin Doyle was killed early Monday when insurgents attacked a remote combat outpost in the Panjwaii district of Kandahar province. He was the 90th Canadian soldier involved in the Afghan mission to die since the mission began in 2002.
A second soldier was seriously injured in Monday's attack and taken to the multinational hospital at Kandahar Airfield for treatment.
"Erin was a big, tough, mountain of a man who enjoyed the outdoors," task force commander Brig.-Gen. Denis Thompson told reporters.
"He was a true warrior and just the person you would want beside you in a firefight."
A member of the 3rd battalion of the Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry based out of Edmonton, this was Doyle's third tour in Afghanistan.
"To Master Cpl. Doyle's wife Nicole, to his daughter Zarine, to his family, friends and colleagues, I extend our sincere condolences," Thompson said.
"The loss of this excellent man and dedicated soldier is deeply painful to his military family and we share your grief."
After as many as 10 insurgents attacked the outpost just before 6 a.m.. Canadian soldiers returned fire and called for artillery and air support, Thompson said, adding the enemy was defeated.
"Master Cpl. Doyle was killed while he was protecting his position and his fellow soldiers," he said.
The attack happened just days after Master Cpl. Josh Roberts was killed in a firefight in neighbouring Zhari district.
Roberts, a crew commander with 9th platoon, C Company, was sitting in the turret of his LAV III when he was shot during a skirmish with insurgents early Saturday.
The circumstances surrounding the shooting death, however, are under investigation.
While Canadian and Afghan security forces were engaging a group of some 15 insurgents during an operation, it's believed a passing private security convoy may have also opened fire, accidentally killing Roberts.
The Canadian Forces National Investigation Service, a branch of the military police which probes incidents involving Canadian military personnel and property, is looking into the incident.
It's not immediately clear which private security company was involved.
This, however, was not the first incident involving private security and Canadian Forces personnel.
Canadian troops fired on a private security vehicle in Kandahar City in April, killing one employee and injuring three others.
The shooting happened as a convoy from the Canadian-run Provincial Reconstruction Team was departing Kandahar Airfield and spotted a vehicle moving at high speed. Fearing a possible attack, soldiers issued several warnings to stop in accordance with standard procedure but the driver failed to pull over.
The incident involved a company called Compass Security.
Soldiers also opened fire on a Compass vehicle in October 2007, injuring seven Afghans and prompting a review of Canadian convoy protocols
Harper, Canadians pressuring their government to stop occupying another country, and telling the truth to why we are even there at all, is not propaganda. It's our right and freedom, even extremist groups know that apparently.
Just days after insurgents shot and killed two Canadian aid workers in eastern Afghanistan, the Taliban is warning similar attacks will occur.
The extremist group issued the warning in a letter posted on the internet, and the CBC confirmed its authenticity on Sunday after talking to Taliban spokesman Zabiullah Mujahid in Kandahar province.
The letter said Canadians should pressure their government to withdraw Canada's troops from Afghanistan and follow a neutral policy regarding Afghanistan or "the Afghans will be obliged to killed your nationals."
"Events such as Logar will happen again," the letter said, referring to an ambush an Aug. 13 that killed Canadian aid workers Jacqueline Kirk of Montreal and Shirley Case of Williams Lake, B.C., along with Trinidadian-American aid worker Nicole Dial and the group's Afghan driver, Mohammad Aimal.
"The Afghans did not go to Canada to kill Canadians. Rather it is the Canadians who came to Afghanistan to kill and torture the Afghans to please the fascist regime of America," the letter said.
A spokesperson for Prime Minister Stephen Harper said Sunday the threat toward Canadians is nothing more than a propaganda exercise and that it won't affect the government's policy on Afghanistan.
Most of the 23 aid workers killed in Afghanistan in the first eight months of 2008 were Afghans, although the attack on workers with the International Rescue Commission last week was the worst single attack on foreigners in several years.
Insurgents most often rely on roadside bombs to target foreign forces and those seen to support their presence.
On Saturday night, a roadside explosion killed 10 Afghan police officers in the Shah Wali Kot district of Kandahar province. The region's police chief, Mutillah Khan, blamed the deadly bombing on Taliban militants.
About 650 Afghan security forces have been killed in roadside bomb blasts and other attacks in the last five months, according to the Afghan interior ministry.
KABUL, Afghanistan - An Afghan governor says militants wearing vests packed with explosives tried to storm a main U.S. base in eastern Afghanistan.
Arsallah Jamal, the governor of Khost province, says the militants failed to gain entry into Camp Salerno in Khost city, next to Pakistan's border.
The attack started late on Monday evening. Jamal says militant suicide teams were pushed away, and that coalition troops were using airstrikes against the assailants.
He says Afghan troops are reporting militants blowing themselves up before capture.
A U.S. military spokesman confirms the attack and says there are no American casualties.
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coalition troops were using airstrikes against the assailants.
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