Davidemtl that was awsome, excellent work. I am going to send that radio host some information, to anyone else that wants to enlighten this radio guy to the overwhelming evidence of cover-ups and lies email him at (kevin.holden@cjad.com) This host says what you were saying would be laughed out of court, he is uneducated. Circumstantial evidence is a collection of facts that, when considered together, can be used to infer a conclusion about something unknown. Circumstantial evidence is usually a theory, supported by a significant quantity of corroborating evidence. Corroboration is normally supplied by one or more expert witnesses who provide forensic evidence. Circumstantial evidence is used in criminal courts to establish guilt or innocence through reasoning.

Keep up the great work David. :D

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Ok I just sent this email to kevin.holden@cjad.com, hoping to enlighten him on this issue. I hope more people let him know what they believe.

I recently heard on your radio broadcast you speaking about 9/11, and if it was a inside job or not. First I would like to thank you for discussing this issue on air, just for doing that alone I commend you. You had a caller named Gino who mentioned WTC7, and how could it have fell symmetrically into it's own footprint with no plane hitting it. Most who have decided not to just believe the versions that the government and media handed them have also seen these photos. You also mentioned that all that the proof of a cover-up would be laughed out of court. Then you asked for proof, you need real proof.

First of all the 9/11 Truth Movement was started by the families of the victims because none of the important questions were answered. Since then the movement has grown into Architects, Engineers, Scientists, Scholars, Demolition Experts, Whistle Blowers, Police and Firemen, FBI, Congressmen, Parliaments, Celebrities, and of coarse Millions and Millions of every day people like you and me.

Second the American government has declassified other events in the past that proves their tactics when it comes to starting wars for political reasons. You yourself can research the Gulf of Tonkin Incident, Operation Northwoods, and the USS Liberty Incident. You must also research the term False Flag Operations (government sponsored terrorism), it's one of the oldest tricks in the book used by many corrupt governments from past to present. Even Hitler used a false flag attack on his Reichstag(Parliament) building and blamed the communists.

So far everything I speak of is fact and we all know history does repeat itself.

Third you wanted proof. We have proof of overwhelming evidence of cover-ups and lies. First, circumstantial evidence is a collection of facts that, when considered together, can be used to infer a conclusion about something unknown. Circumstantial evidence is usually a theory, supported by a significant quantity of corroborating evidence. Corroboration is normally supplied by one or more expert witnesses who provide forensic evidence. Circumstantial evidence is used in criminal courts to establish guilt or innocence through reasoning. So if you review the eye-witness accounts and forensic evidence by the experts I am providing you, you will see without a doubt a new independent investigation is needed regarding 9/11.

Journal of 9/11 Studies
The Journal of 9/11 Studies, a peer-reviewed, open-access, electronic-only journal, covering the whole of research related to the events of 11 September, 2001. Many fields of study are represented in the journal, including Engineering, Physics, Chemistry, Mathematics and Psychology.
http://www.journalof911studies.com/
Why Indeed Did the WTC Buildings Collapse?
Professor Steven E. Jones is an American physicist.
http://journalof911studies.com/volume/2 ... llapse.pdf The Open Civil Engineering Journal
Fourteen Points of Agreement with Official Government Reports on the World Trade Center Destruction
Authors: Steven E. Jones, Frank M. Legge, Kevin R. Ryan, Anthony F. Szamboti, James R. Gourley Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth!
Architect Richard Gage is a Member of the American Institute of Architects and the Founder of ae911truth.
http://www.ae911truth.org/ Scholars for 9/11 Truth & Justice
We are a group of scholars and supporters endeavoring to address the unanswered questions of the September 11, 2001 attack through scientific research and public education.
http://www.stj911.com/ PHYSICS 911
PHYSICS 911 is created and maintained by a group of scientists, engineers and other professionals known collectively as the Scientific Panel Investigating Nine-eleven.
http://physics911.net/
http://physics911.ca/Main_Page Patriots Question 9/11
130+ Senior Military, Intelligence Service, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials 490+ Engineers and Architects 120+ Pilots and Aviation Professionals 260+ Professors Question 9/11 210+ 9/11 Survivors and Family Members 140+ Artists, Entertainers, and Media Professionals
http://patriotsquestion911.com/ 9-11 Research
9-11 Research Provides Factual, Reasoned Analysis of the 9/11 Attack Exposing Fallacies of the Official Reports.
http://911research.wtc7.net/index.html Study of 911
The Studyof911 is dedicated to objective research of the events of 9/11.
http://www.studyof911.com/
Photographic Analysis of Damage to WTC7 and Critical Errors in NIST's Estimations
http://www.studyof911.com/articles/winstonwtc701/
Video Evidence
http://www.studyof911.com/video/ WTC7
WTC7.net was created by Jim Hoffman to address the suspicious silence surrounding the total collapse of the 47 story skyscraper known as WTC 7, or Building 7. Except for reports of the collapse on the day of the attack, most conspicuously lacking footage, mention of Building 7 has been essentially non-existent in the mainstream and even alternative press.
http://www.wtc7.net/index.html WTC 1 - the Case for Collapse/Crush down Arrest and clear Thinking
2 May 2008
Anders Björkman, M.Sc. Naval Architect and Marine Engineer, with more than 35 years experience of tanker and ferry design, construction and operations worldwide.
http://heiwaco.tripod.com/nist3.htm
The NIST Report on the World Trade Center Collapse one year later: Still Dead On Arrival
By Mark H. Gaffney
http://www.informationclearinghouse.inf ... e18999.htm House Judiciary witness: Destroyed CIA tapes are 'ultimate cover-up'
David Edwards and Jason Rhyne
Published: Thursday December 20, 2007
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Witness_t ... _1220.html
Credible Witnesses
Firefighters, law enforcement officers, and other extremely credible witnesses have also discredited the Administration's version of why the world trade center buildings collapsed on 9/11
http://911proof.com/11.html FBI says, “No hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11”
http://www.informationclearinghouse.inf ... e13664.htm

FBI Informant Knew 9/11 Hijackers
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/09/11/a ... .landlord/
Oh and if you were wondering what was wrong with the 9/11 Commission Report or you think this conspiracy has been debunked, here's some more research for you. The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions
Professor David Ray Griffin
http://www.septembereleventh.org/newsar ... 1pglie.php The 9/11 Commission Report: An Elaborate Fiction
http://911research.wtc7.net/post911/com ... eport.html The Top Ten Connections Between NIST and Nano-Thermites by Kevin Ryan
http://journalof911studies.com/volume/2 ... Nano-1.pdf
Kevin R. Ryan, 7-02-08 And more debunking of the debunkers!!
http://stj911.org/press_releases/NIST.html
http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/nist/index.html
http://911research.wtc7.net/reviews/nis ... reply.html
http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/gopm/index.html
http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/sciam/index.html
http://www.serendipity.li/wot/pop_mech/ ... hanics.htm
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/au ... tricks.htm
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/au ... y_yarn.htm

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fema_report.html
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?sto ... 1155307646
http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish ... 1242.shtml
http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/20 ... tence.html
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/fe ... oflies.htm
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 3&hl=en-GB
http://gordonssite.tripod.com/id3.html

http://us-amnesia.blogspot.com/2007/05/ ... perts.html
http://us-amnesia.blogspot.com/2007/05/ ... dence.html

Excellent Books for Truth about 9/11.
http://www.interlinkbooks.com/index.php ... 571e920719

Now this is overwhelming circumstantial and forensic evidence that would hold up in a court of law, and is indeed how the criminal courts work. So there is your proof. Once again thank you so much for speaking 9/11 Truth on your show and I would love to see you again touch on this issue. Maybe even invite some of the experts that have come out to some air time.

Concerned Canadian.

p.s I used my wifes user name from this forum because I like it!

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I'll be shocked if he responds in a positive manner, he's either hard headed or he knows the truth but knows better than to speak the truth or else he loses his job, nice email anyways, keep me posted. I'm glad you liked my vid

Well that was a quick response and not to negative. :) Here it is...
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On Mon, 8/11/08, Kevin Holden <Kevin> wrote:
Wow! Thanks for all the links! Hope you didn't have to compile that yourself.
I will continue to keep an open mind on this issue as I for one DO believe that there are government conspiracies. These are simply plans they make they choose not to tell the rabble about for covert reasons, and they have been around since Brutus slayed Caesar.
Generally, I find there are two types of groups 'in play' regarding these situations. The conspiracy theorists who, at their worst will embrace and support virtually any theory that lays blame for problems at the foot of mysterious cabals like Freemasons or Illuminati ( or most often their favorite target the Jews). They require little or no evidence for their scenarios and reject any opposing argument as merely part of the conspiracy. On the other hand, you have the militant naysayers who would never believe any idea that did not come from recognized authorities. Their worldview is threatened by the suggestion that the powers-that-be could ever be dishonest, and they will deny the possibilty of conspiracy regardless of whatever evidence you can muster. ( many believe in radical religous ideas despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary) These guys could find Dick Cheney stuffing a dead hooker into the trunk of car and they would deny it was unusual.
In between is you and me. Like with UFO's ( a topic I love despite not being a believer ) I merely require something more meaningful than a good story.
I've already looked at a lot of the info you've sent. I've interviewed Dylan Avery and the 'Loose Change' crowd before.

My single biggest problem with the whole 911-truth movement so far is that the estimate of people who would be required to be involved at some level is conservatively placed at about 8,000. From the guys who stood down the Air Force to the guys who wired the building, the staff inside WTC 7, the Pentagon and so many more. And not one of them will talk?? That's unlikely to say the least. One person gets fatal cancer and he blabs his head off. But nobody has ever said anything.

Anyway, I will continue to keep an open mind on the issue and read new material as it emerges.

It would help when the issue arose on our show if we did not get so much whacky hate mail and threats from '911 truthers' That puts any broadcaster off doing the issue. Letters like yours are a refreshing change.
Thanks again.
Kevin HoldenShow hostAstral Media Radio GP - CJAD 800514-989-3858

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I had a problem with his biggest problem so far with the 9/11 Truth movement, so I responded with this... :wink:

Hi Kevin, Thank you for your quick response, as i'm sure you are a busy man. Hate mail and threats are ridiculous and I would not tolerate them either. I just wanted to respond to the biggest problem you have with the 9/11 movement, take from it what you want though. You stated it would have required about 8000 people to pull this off, and why has no one come forward. Analysis has been done on this and it shows it could have been as little as 140 people. As far as why no one has confessed, look at it this way: everyone involved in 9-11, even those only involved in the cover-up, are guilty of crimes for which they could possibly receive a death sentence if convicted. If that isn’t enough incentive to remain silent, i don’t know what is! How many times has a criminal ever confessed to a crime for which they were not even a suspect?! Criminals will only confess if they’re convinced they’ve been caught and they’re willing to make a deal for leniency if they reveal their cohorts. Furthermore, when you read the names on the list of suspected perpetrators, you’ll see right away what a tight-knit little group it is. If there were even a shadow of a doubt about someone’s loyalty, they would not have been invited into this cabal. Source: http://www.whodidit.org/index.html

As for the one person getting cancer. There are thousands of responders, residents and workers who were made sick by the toxic air at Ground Zero and have been desperately looking to their government and their President for help. Source: http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press/ny ... 13108.html
Discover Magazine's September 2007 featured article brought attention to the "9/11 Cover Up". As many as 300,000 people will suffer from illness caused be contamination to the toxins at Ground Zero. http://911health4heroes.com/

Once again thank you for having an open mind to this, and keep up the great work.

Concerned Canadian.

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good job, I still don't believe he will come around though,but a god idea would be to forward your email to every single radio host's email that is made public

I sent one as well:

Hey,

I happened to hear your ridiculous rant about 9/11 you had with a caller named Gino. I had to write.

Proof? You want proof. Well first, pick up a basic physics book and read. Then, apply that knowledge to this:

Falling objects will fall in the path of least resistance. In the case of WTC1 and WTC 2, the mass that was falling (in this case the parts of the twin towers above the impact zone) fell DIRECTLY THROUGH the path of MOST resistance.

After reading that physics book you should have come to the conclusion by now that, the ONLY way this could have happened the way it did was if the mass below what was falling had been pushed out of the way, thus creating a path of least resistance.

Proof the planes alone or the plane with the fires could not have caused global collapse of the twin towers.

Simple physics.

NO, you are correct; We do not have solid proof on who committed these terrible attacks, not even for Osama. We have a confession tape and that is it. The FBI themselves admit they have no solid evidence that Osama is responsible for the attacks that day. The thing is Mr. Misinformed Host, we are are not the ones supposed be doing the charging. That's up to our law enforcement and our Government and do you think for a second that IF ELEMENTS of the U.S Government were in any way responsible for any part of 9/11, they would let a REAL investigation happen?

Now if they WEREN'T in the least responsible, these elements of the U.S Governement, do you think they would not have be lying to us ever since? Do you think Osama, if he were solely responsible, would still be out there if he was really the one who done it? Come on man. We have satellites that can watch you pick your nose and bombs that can bust holes into mountains. Do you think he'd be able to hide?

Anyway, look, I don't mean to be rude here but, do some homework and then use the incredible power you have with your voice and people willing to listen and talk about it.

Have a great day. Be well,
Stephen
Newfoundland, Canada

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Great job by the way!!

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Nice one TC!! Everyone should let this guy know what their opinion is, Freedom of Opinion!!!

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Thanks OC. He did reply, rather quickley, by the way....



And of course, I had to reply back. This one he hasn't replied to. Hopefully because all you folks are writing him as well.

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Awsome TC!! Perfectly put!



If these radio hosts know this why are they not fighting for their(our) freedom of speech, freedom of media. I guess I could never be a radio host, because in being one I would refuse the intimidation of using these freedoms. If they have any conscious, they would fight the intimidation to tell Truth, or at least not battle the ones who are. Once again luxuries and the $$$ is more important than human life.

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I'm surprised he mentioned the no fly list, the truth is he will be out of a job if he or any host admit to an inside job, I believe it's futile to continue emailing these people because there arguments are so bogus that he most probably knows it's an inside job but will never admit to i for reasons above......we should however continue to call in these shows to spread the truth

This is oh so true David. They are comfy so they will not talk.

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